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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 8, 2011 4:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Oh, I'm sorry. Apologies to everyone beforehand. And apologies to you too, DS, cuz really, you're just posting a nice long movie list and that's cool.

But, dude ... bing! Busted!!!

For folks who have been lucky enough not to have followed this, it's just an old dumb thing on the forum ... so, nothing to see here, move along :-)

For DS: I think a lot of folks would be happy if you'd come clean about your real experiences and all. Not everyone cares if you're Voldemort or whatever Kochman's real name is. But for real, I think this list pretty much nails the case.

Here goes. Remember, you've said you were born in 1957, http://www.archive.org/post/380650/denver-coliseum-11-21-73, taped your first Dead show in '71, have told stories about driving to shows in '73-74, yada yada. (Yeah, I know it's lame and trivial to remember what some web poster said about whatever, but dates and such do stick with me, and we all know these never added up.) Anyway, here are a few that jumped out at me:

97.) The Muppet Movie (79) Director: James Frawley

I saw this at the old State theatre downtown with mom, sister and grandmother. I was a huge "Muppet Show" fan but I was floored when I saw Kermit ride a bike, frigging' cool!

(Well, I guess you could see it with your folks and think the Muppets and Kermit on a bike was friggin' cool at 22. I still think the Muppets are cool.)

93.) Alien (79) Director: Ridley Scott
Sigourney Weaver

I first caught a glimpse of this movie peeking through a window of a theatre at Hawthorn. It was R Rated and I couldn't see this but I could have easily snuck in but I was so scared of horror movies at that time.

(You first saw it when you COULDN'T go to an R-rated movie, which was age 22?)

89.) The Pink Panther Strikes Again (77) Director: Blake Edwards

I love the Pink Panther movies a lot! When I was a kid I laughed until I pissed in my pants at this screwball classic. I was finally discovering acting when I was 9 and I knew then that Peter Sellers was a genius!

(Ummmm ... it must have been cool to go to that Northwestern show at age five. http://www.archive.org/post/376342/weather-report-suite )

80.) The Three Musketeers (73) Director: Richard Lester

I love the swordplay, I love the cast, loved Raquel Welch (Wow!) and loved the slapstick comedy. This is my favorite swashbuckler of all time and I saw it when I was 5 at the Lakehurst theatre. I saw it many more times on video and DVD and I still find it a treat on all levels.

(But two years before that, you were taping a Dead show! http://www.archive.org/post/380630/denver-coliseum-11-21-73
And you've written a bunch about 8/24/71. For instance,
http://www.archive.org/post/346348/auditorium-theater-08-24-71, where among other things, you said: "I saw Pig only once, 08/24/71 at the Auditorium Theater Chicago. He was positioned on stage left, a rather large white sandwich board on the stage in front of his keyboard read "Music is Live and Well".

He had a case of beer on the stage floor behind him and was pounding them down. I recall somewhere @ the second set, Pig fell backwards off his keyboard bench and wasn't seen for an hour or so as the quartet plowed into a unique trifecta of That's it for the Other One > The Other One > Me and My Uncle > The Other One > That's it for the Other One, reprise.

Mezmerizing to say the least. I also recall these uniformed dudes named "Andy Frains" attempting to keep the audience controlled and in their seats. Eventually Phil walked up to the microphone and said "you wanna get up and dance? ok, tell them Phil said it was ok", at that moment Jerry breaks into a rippin Bertha and the crowd was up and rockin in the beautifully plush and elegant confines of The Auditorium Theater.")

DANG that's a lot to remember for a three-year-old!!!

Seriously, I'd rather talk movies ... but just own up. Just say, "Yeah, that was stupid, I didn't really tape a '71 show and see all those '70s shows, because I was just a kid, but I love the Dead and loved what I saw in the 90s and just didn't think that would be respected," or whatever. I bet you have a lot to say. You don't need to make up stories.

OK, now I'm gonna duck.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 8, 2011 8:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Poor Kochman. Busted once again. I actually feel sorry for the guy...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 8, 2011 6:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Oh no, down the rabbit hole you go!

http://tinyurl.com/5u93lkv

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 8, 2011 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Hilarious!

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Oct 8, 2011 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

If you had read the text heading line; "one persons opinion" you would have gathered the operative phrase, I never claimed authorship, the list is published on the internet and thought it made for a good read.

http://regularmoviegoer.blogspot.com/2010/10/my-100-best-movies-of-1970s.html


You disappoint me AR, I thought you were above all the petty juvenile Kochaballo nonsense, guess I was mistaken. Every word I have written at the Forum is the truth.

" All Truth Passes Through Three Stages. First, It Is Ridiculed. Second, It Is Violently Opposed. Third, It Is Accepted As Being Self-Evident."

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 8, 2011 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Take your meds, Koch...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 8, 2011 9:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Oh darn. Such a great catch, too. Now it's just copying and pasting without attribution, which isn't nearly as entertaining. So, back to a 13 or 14-year-old taper instead of a three-year-old? Aw. Three is more fun. Ok, I'll just go back to quiet skepticism. I definitely don't want to bring back all the Kochification. Carry on.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 8, 2011 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Now, this is maybe just me, but when someone uses a phrase like 'one man's opinion' and then doesn't name said man, one is entitled to take the view that the man under discussion is the writer himself. Seems a natural assumption to make, which after all is what you did, Althea. Also, because it's just the sort of person I am, I entered a few phrases from the post into Google - I was curious to discover just who we should be giving the attribution to if not the unfailingly modest Mr Starz. And do you know what I found? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. A blank. So, what do we take from that? Is it possible that our blushing Mr Starz did in fact write the piece and was so carried away by his outpourings of wit, originality and touching tales of youth that he inadvertently strayed off message, fell out of character as it were, let the cat out of the proverbial bag of truth and amongst the pigeons of fantasy and was left choking on the feathers of his own debunking.

Well,I don't know you know, but I'm just saying.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 8, 2011 3:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

You know, it's funny but my own first reaction was also that dark.starz could not have written this, but was just copying it - should have looked further in google!

And so much for the authenticity of any dark.starz post.

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2011-10-08 22:15:02

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Poster: FriendUs Date: Oct 10, 2011 8:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Metamorpho with Compleat Kandor

Seems you Americans are always bickering about something

Like who's going to ingest the primest trough lolly


Quite a shame we had to "let you go"
CHEERS

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 8, 2011 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

"Is it possible that our blushing Mr Starz did in fact write the piece and was so carried away by his outpourings of wit, originality and touching tales of youth that he inadvertently strayed off message, fell out of character as it were, let the cat out of the proverbial bag of truth and amongst the pigeons of fantasy and was left choking on the feathers of his own debunking."

While idk what to think about all this kochstarz stuff. That is a sweet sentence. Wish I could write like that.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Oct 8, 2011 9:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Zero regard for the "Brew Crew" when the town is a-blaze?

Twisted Youth!

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 9, 2011 9:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

hey im behind the team, and im trying to watch these playoff games. But yes baseball typically makes me sleepy.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 8, 2011 6:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

It's here:

http://regularmoviegoer.blogspot.com/2010/10/my-100-best-movies-of-1970s.html

darkstarz, all ya gotta do is give the link ... if you write "one person's opinion" and don't give a link, people think it's yours, or think you're claiming it's yours. Also, the actual author probably wouldn't appreciate your reposting it without attribution.

nothing personal ... I'm a publishing professional and I gotta advise people on this stuff all the time. everyone thinks the whole internet's free - it's not, it's all copyrighted just like a book or magazine.

This post was modified by ringolevio on 2011-10-09 01:41:45

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 9, 2011 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

I fired my researcher.
:-)

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Oct 8, 2011 9:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Never claimed ownership, just sharing!

"Also, the actual author probably wouldn't appreciate your reposting it without attribution."

Yup, a nasty lil habit picked up from LIA!

:)


This post was modified by dark.starz on 2011-10-09 04:09:19

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 9, 2011 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

I fired my researcher.
:-)

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Oct 8, 2011 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Elvis at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

for the record, I never said I taped Elvis!
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Poster: dark.starz Date: Oct 8, 2011 8:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Elvis at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

" Now it's just copying and pasting without attribution, which isn't nearly as entertaining. "

Yup, a nasty lil habit picked up from LIA!

:)

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 10, 2011 7:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Taping Pigpen at age THREE?!? (Sorry, all.)

Kochiest. Thread. Ever.